Did Arctic Cat/Textron Abandon It’s Customers, Again?

In an article that was written two years ago about the acquisition of Arctic Cat by Textron called “Did Arctic Cat Abandon Its Customers,” there were lots of speculation, excitement and sadness of what the company was doing and the direction they were taking the company.
After roughly two years since the acquisition, we have watched and witnessed many of the predictions come into reality.
The Good
When we think back to the day in 2017, Textron demolished the loyal arctic cat off-road name and replaced it with its own name. To say the least, we were confused, bewildered, and straight out disappointed. These guys literally destroyed an already existing brand that has spent millions on branding, clothing, merchandise to have Textron’s marketing and management team destroy a history of a known off-road company and shake the foundation of loyal arctic cat riders across Canada and the USA.
In January 2019, someone actually came to their senses within Textron and got them to change their off-road division back to Arctic Cat instead of trying to brand Textron into everyone’s households.
Similar to what we witnessed in 2017, we are still seeing many Arctic Cat Powersports dropping product lines or closing their doors. However, a few strong dealerships are thriving in the environment with less competition and strong rebates and discounts.
We even witnessed a few Arctic Cat dealerships converted the majority of their business models and veered to become Textron EZ-GO Golf Cart destinations instead of focusing on ATVs and Snowmobiles.
As was predicted in 2017, Textron would contribute some of their DNA into Arctic Cat. They recently brought to market an interesting concept of a snowmobile called the Alpha One mountain snowmobile, which is going head to head with the Polaris Pro-RMK on a unique monorail track system.
They also have incorporated some interesting technologies into the already existing products.
The Bad
Textron has owned Arctic Cat since 2017, and since then, they have been offering huge rebates on in-stock models to try to increase market share.
This, unfortunately, is negatively affecting the customers who have already pre-ordered and paid sale prices to have the manufacturer a month down the road the factory offer crazy discounts on their products.
Textron has continued this business practice for over two years and is showing no signs of it stopping. Customers who purchased last year’s non-current models are being rewarded, where if you buy a current model year, you can expect huge discounts arriving shortly after purchase, making yours nearly impossible to sell unless you take a large loss on it.
Did you or one of your friends or family purchase one of the Alpha One snowmobiles in 2018? When they got released, they were going for around $16,500+. During 2020 pre-order, Arctic Cat put massive rebates on the 2020 Alphas, which had dealers selling them for $12,500. That means someone who purchased a 2019 model instantly got $4000 depreciation to go along with his average mileage and yearly depreciation. Imagine if you financed a snowmobile, you’re never going to be able to upgrade, or if you do, it’s going to be costly.
This was not just something they offered on Alpha models; they offered similar pricing drops across their whole lineup.
Of course, this is great for new customers entering the market, but anyone loyal and existing customers wearing the cat gear feel like they are getting the short end of the stick.
The Ugly
Textron decided to change their Off-Road vehicle name back to Arctic Cat, which is a good move but, on the other hand, a bit crazy. For the last two years, Arctic Cat dealerships were pushing customers into the newest and greatest vehicles that are “Textron.” They now abandoned every customer; they sold a Textron to making that brand non-existent, causing anyone who owns a Textron vehicle to have a considerable drop in resale or trade value. A good name like Polaris, Yamaha, Can-AM, and Arctic Cat carries its weight in gold for resale value to loyal riders. But trying to sell an unknown vehicle that no one has heard of makes it tough to resell. This reminds us of those Chinese ATVs and Dirt Bikes Canadian Tire sold for a few years then stopped selling, leaving the customers to fend for themselves.
Did you ever own one of those Chinese bikes? Do you even remember the name of them? Have you ever tried to sell or trade it into a dealership? How many dealerships were excited about the opportunity to take them off your hands?
As a dealer watching from the outside in, we continue to feel the Arctic Cat/Textron customers frustration. We hear it on the phones, emails, and text messages as they call switching brands and trying to trade their Arctic Cats ATVs, Textrons, and Snowmobiles.
Conclusion
So far, with two years of ownership, Textron’s engineers brought some interesting concepts into the snowmobiling world, but at the same time, we feel they have caused more harm than good. Like what happened in 2017, no one expects to purchase a snowmobile or ATV and have the manufacturer drop the price by $4000 the month or even a year after buying it. This is unfair and crazy to take advantage of your loyal customers like this. On the bright side, Textron realized the mistake of abolishing the Arctic Cat off-road brand. It brought it back, unfortunately fixing the thing they should have never done in the first place now destroyed resale values of the new Textron ownership customers.
We personally believe with the renaming from Textron back to Arctic Cat leads to the idea Textron is planning to sell off the company again as they know they can’t sell a company-branded with their name.
These views above are solely ours from us watching from afar and from our experience and shared by customers or other dealers who have switched brands or wanted to share their frustrations with us. We do not have any relation to Arctic Cat other than we take them on trade often for resale.
What do you think, did Arctic Cat Abandon its customers with the Textron line. What are they doing that’s good, what is bad? We would love to hear from other current or past Arctic Cat Dealerships where they see the outlook of the company going. Leave some feedback below.
33 comment(s) so far on Did Arctic Cat/Textron Abandon It’s Customers, Again?
Yea they did have 1000 mud pro and I what to replace it. So I have to go to polaris or can am
We stayed as a cat dealer but had to add Kawasaki as Textron was only shipping product to Tracker. Because of the lack of 2020 units being shipped we did loose a lot of loyal cat people, the trust has been lost on the dirt side but we’ll get it back. The dealer is just going to have to build it up. We did add EZGO but dealing with Ezgo has been tough to do. We are a Canadian dealer and normally sell 80-130 sleds a year and because of the new way of the customer pre buying the sleds we have next to. Othing to sell this year for snow product. We made it through model year 2012 so I think we can handle the changes brought forward by Textron
Sad news really. The customers are getting afraid to buy their products feeling they will completely quit making the off road models the they will be left will a non resellable product. Very sad, really.
Business can be cruel, bottomline first.
Yes, I own a 2016 mud pro . Can’t find parts for it or anyone who wants to work on it. I’ll definitely be going with another , more reliable company.
I bought a Textron ATV used a 570 EFI. The people that I bought it from, bought it in November of 2019 didn’t use it much. Then I bought it from them in May of 2020. Only had nine miles, I rode it four miles then went to take it out and wouldn’t start. Now in the shop what a piece of 💩. I’m going to get rid of it and get a Polaris because I have one 16 years old and has 4000 miles on it and it runs better than this new piece of 💩. I’m going to tell everyone I know not to buy a Textron because there JUNK. very disappointed ☹️😞. As far as I can say they’ve ruined Arctic cat name.
It is true what Textron done basically ruined the Arctic Cat name in off-road business nobody knows what the hell Textron is this made quite a few loyal Arctic Cat owners not very happy then Textron took it one step further rebadging the Arctic Cat names for tracker off-road talk to a few Arctic Cat dealerships they will not honor or work on tracker what so ever so what the hell is Textron trying to prove here I think Arctic cat needs to buy itself back away from Textron and do what they do best building ATVs and snow machines
I bought my first Textron/Arctic Cat product in April 2019. It was a 2019 Havoc Backcountry Edition. Two weeks after purchasing it I received a stop ride/do not sell letter from Textron due to a recall they were having on faulty upper a arms. At first I thought no biggie, all companies have recalls. Months went by and parts were not becoming available so I filed a complaint with the better business bureau. Two days later I got a call from my dealership saying Textron expedited my parts to them (This was late August 2019). So finally in September of 2019 I was able to take my Havoc, which I purchased back in April, on its first trail ride. Big mistake! Within a few miles I noticed it would grind when shifting from Park. I played it off at first thinking it would get better with time, which it didn’t. In fact it got worse. Then I noticed twice on its first outing that the engine would shut off completely when I came to a stop. The first time I was miles from home and it took SEVERAL attempts before it would restart. Needless to say I came home and parked it. I waited a few weeks and took it out for its second outing. This time it did better, the grinding when shifting from park was hit or miss but at least it didn’t shut the engine off when I would brake to a stop. Then on its third outing (mind you this is a brand new machine with less than 100 miles on it) it wouldn’t hardly start. When it finally did it would shake violently and my temp gauge would skyrocket once. Once it settled back down it was inoperable because once again it would shut the engine off when I would press my brakes to come to a stop. So finally in November 2019 I take it back to the dealer to be serviced. Well they worked, and worked, and worked on it for months. Finally in March 2020 they call me to tell me they “thought” it might be fixed but they wanted me to test drive it first before I signed off on the repairs. So I drive to the dealership and start it up for my test drive in their parking lot. It did start easier and it shifted from park easier, I must say. I then proceed to test drive it. I didn’t get 50 feet before I pressed my brakes and the engine shut off again. This was right in front of the maintenance tech. I get out I hand them the keys and tell them I am no longer interested in owning a Textron/Arctic Cat product ever again. They are complete junk and I tell everyone I get the chance to to stay away.
Textron is JUNK I bought a 2018 Alterra 500 in January 2018. It now has 277 miles 78 hrs on it & motor is locked up. It has never been on a trail or rode hard just used to remove snow & used around my property to do choirs.
Textron decimated a fantastic brand and laid off huge numbers of very talented and loyal Arctic Cat staff. Many dealers have added lines such as Kawasaki and Suzuki as they are tired of being abused by Textron management.
It’s a crazy world but yes Arctic cat dealers have been in for a roller coaster. Hopefully, things stabilize soon!
TEXTRON RUINED ARCTIC CAT NAME LIKE THEY DID WITH POLARIS YEARS AGO AND IT HARD TO BUY AN ARCTIC CAT WITH TEXTRON AT THE HELM WHICH TEXTRON MAKES STUPID MISTAKES
I’m trying to find out who works on arctic cat atvs in Florida
The best way would be to use the Arctic Cat Dealer Locator. Should help you narrow your search.
Textron damn near killed Polaris took a long time for Polaris to rebuild what was not broken!!!!! NOW they have done the same thing to cat.Who are these idiots?? i was born the same year as cat 1962 and have been loyal forever what the hell is wrong with these people buy it fine!!!! expand the brand make it better YOU MAY HAVE KILLED IT!!!!!! SO SAD AND STUPID HEADS NEED TO ROLL PS i have been in business 37 years i would never do this to my customers;you need to sell it back to a company that will bring it forward IDIOTS!!!!! how can you abandon the people that buy your product
Hey Mike,
Textron and Arctic Cat are fairly large companies. Sometimes the larger they are, the slower they react. Hopefully, they figure their internal issues out for the good of the Powersports community.
As a current owner of an arctic cat wildcat 1000x limited and previous owner of multiple arctic cat atvs and side by sides im absolutely astonished! We have been left hung out to dry by the company with little to no parts support and dealers closing or dropping the line and current dealers that still carry them refusing to take any trades for their own brand?!? Dropping the stampede and havoc line was the stupidest thing because it was quite literally plowing through the field of competition and only needed a little engineering support. As soon as i can find somebody to buy my wildcat im going back to honda!
Hey James,
It sounds like it’s pretty rough in your area, especially with the lack of support from dealers. If you do want to part with your wildcat, we will purchase it from you for cash. Just reach out to us, and can figure some numbers out. Hopefully, things won’t be like this forever, and all the internal company issues get resolved!
I think your comment of the Textron engineers coming up with the single rail for the mountain segment. This was in development already when Textron made the purchase. Textron’s own engineers have a hard enough time engineering themselves out of a wet paper sack! PLEASE do not give Textron engineers credit for the Alpha single rail because Arctic Cat engineers deserve all of the credit.
Having owned a 2017 Stampede and a 2018 Wildcat XX, both totaled by my INS co, I moved on to a Can Am Defender…
What an amazing difference in engineering, fit and finish and execution.
Textron was a hot mess to deal with. Luckily my dealer bit the bullet for me many times
Ya I bleed AC green! And all family and friends Been buying only Cats since the 60’s! I knew the Robbie Gordon XX was a Beast and the best factory Sport UTV ever built! Don’t believe me? Go to Glamis, Everything else is gets busted down dragged away. I don’t care about a Turbo, and if I did all I gotta do is pull the YXZ motor, replace main and piston bearings install the alternator driven “BLOWER” and re-flash to 400 HP! It’s the only OE power plant that can take it! Anyway I bought a 2020 XX back in MN when we returned from AZ last Mem weekend. Won’t mention the name of the dealer but it’s in Sauk Center MN. SB SUCK Center! My brand new XX had less than 6 hours on it and the ECU puked! 3 fault codes and died would not turn over! Not going to into the horror that then ensued! Dealer couldn’t care less he had already cashed my 22,000 dollar check! There was not a ECU available Nationwide so it sat for over a month! (by the way this was the 3rd machine I bought from these bums) didn’t matter! Hundreds of phone calls E-mails so on to Textron whoever Arctic Cat and NOT ONE RESPONSE BACK FROM ANYONE! This was beyond COMPREHENSION! OH YA AND IN THE MEANTIME the idiots fired Robbie Gordon and now he’s building his own car to directly compete with AC! Nice job fellas! YOU SUCK! If I was wealthy I’d waste a Million bucks and sue these FOOLS! And still no Turbos from Textron and no 4 place XX’s! Keep it up guys and you will have destroyed this WONDERFUL product and No-One will buy this Train Wreck!
My buddy purchased a new 2018 textron stampede an only got 100kms out off it an motor seized solid an he tried bringing it back to the dealer to get issue resolved while still under warranty an got pushed off pretty much until warranty was up an than told him she’s out off warranty an nothing they can’t do I think this is absolutely nuts in my opinion any dealer that sells any recreational vehicle should honestly honor something to the customer doesn’t matter the name or what it is u definitely should get more than 100kms out off it especially something in the 20 grand mark this is absolutely nuts how they won’t even take care off a customer in that condition so that tells ya what ya dealing with it definitely doesn’t look good for people in my area to purchase one at this point some feed
Back would be nice thanks !!!!
I have owned Arctic cat off road and snowmobile s what Textron is doing My Favorite Ride is Depressing . Get your butts back into the off Road market Up Grade the XX MAKE A 4 SEATER, and please fix your parts department
I am in the process of purchasing my first Artic Cat its the new Alpha One M8000 ES 165″/3.00 I asked the dealership if Artic Cat had any promos or discounts i was told no. So do you have any promos for 2021 or not. I am from Canada
Hi Kimberly, depending on the exact model there are usually programs to take advantage of. Feel free to reach out to our team and they can assist further.
It is interesting to note that Textron purchased Polaris back in 1968.
I think another problem Arctic Cat is dealing with is the fact that Robby Gordon engineered and developed the Wildcat XX, a great machine. He kept all the rights to the car and is selling aftermarket parts and upgrades at his Speed X business. And, he is coming out with his own UTV the end of this year.
I agree with your comments, Textron had purchased David Brown Industries(they make gearboxes for industry), anyway they did nothing good for them, milked them then spit them out. I was worried myself as soon as they purchased Arctic Cat. I doubt if anything good comes from this, they seem very headstrong, immature marketing company that don’t listen too well – yet promote themselves as gods that will turn a company around..quite deceiving and disheartening from what I’ve seen..
My local Arctic dealer can’t sell sleds and parts. So where do I go? The factory on line part order no longer sells part s what they have done with the company is a shame.
This purchase raised eyebrows from people who knew of Textron’s previous ownership of Polaris. Polaris did not thrive until Textron sold it. Why would you abandon one company in the snowmobile business after ruining it and then reenter it years later? I loved working for Textron, it was a really good company when it was a holding company and allowed it’s divisions to do what they do best. Unfortunately under ex GM Truck Manager as their CEO Lewis Campbell, they became an operating company and branded everything Textron. The managers managed to mess up a number of their fine holdings and lost shareholder value in a big way…hopefully his style of management after his retirement (before AC was bought) changed. Although, current CEO Scott Donnelly was hired by Mr. Campbell. Given the comments, it does not sound like they have changed much under Donnelly. It is anybody’s guess how well Artic Cat does. Looks like Textron should stick to helicopters and aircraft, armoured vehicles, hovercrafts and such. I say depending on what you are looking for in a recreational vehicle, support Canadian made product if you can…if you want REAL ATV’s check out Argo’s from Ontario Drive & Gear or buy Can-Am(Doo)!
If you think you had it bad there, we were just abandoned in the UK, with ‘retailers’ and dealerships badly let down but then passing that let down twofold on customers by charging a bloody fortune for parts!
We purchased a 2019 Textron Wildcat XX and 6 months later the dealer no longer carried Textron and became a Can Am dealer. Now the XX is sold by Tracker Boats at a much cheaper price. It’s not right.
Bout 100 miles on the odo of a 2019 alterra 450, second year owned, first ride of the season, won’t crank.. no error codes, no power to fuel pump. Inspected the ECU and it contained water damage. This is chynese level garbage and I advise to never purchase until these shitty bikes get sorted. $1050usd for ECU IF you can get one… LCD display is also water damaged and has discolouration but still funtions.
ive been an arctic cat rider for my whole life. i just ordered a new ski doo mxzx this spring. waited for arctic cats big news on their new models and the 50th anniversary emblem just didnt do it for me. they dont even have a model with a short track